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coumputerguy
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Threat of militia spooked judge Gun-rights activist's 'order' resulted in SWAT protection
By Hector Gutierrez, Rocky Mountain News June 22, 2004
BRIGHTON - A Thornton municipal judge testified Monday that a SWAT team was forced to protect his home after a gun-rights activist sent him a 'notice of order' threatening to have a militia arrest him for treason.
Municipal Judge Charles J. Rose told jurors that one of the penalties for treason under federal and state laws is death, which caused him to become concerned about his safety.
Adams County prosecutors say Rick E. Stanley was responsible for sending the 'notice of order' after Rose convicted him of violating Thornton's ordinance on illegal possession of a firearm and sentenced him to 90 days in jail.
That same 'notice of order' also was sent to 17th Judicial District Judge Donald W. Marshall Jr., who upheld Rose's verdict on Stanley.
Stanley, 49, is on trial on felony charges of attempting to influence a public servant.
Security at the Adams County Justice Center was beefed up considerably Monday. Officers and deputies from the Brighton Police Department and the Adams County Sheriff's Office patrolled the center's parking lot and courthouse. Courtroom observers and Stanley supporters were forced to pass through two metal detectors.
Since the judges are the alleged victims, retired Supreme Court Justice Joseph R. Quinn is presiding at the trial.
Stanley's attorney, R. Scott Reisch, told jurors that his client simply was 'publicly and loudly criticizing the judges in the performance of their duties.'
As Stanley, dressed in a dark suit and tie, listened attentively, Reisch said that his client was trying to convince Rose that he had no jurisdiction in his case. When he was scheduled to be sentenced in October, Stanley instead sent his secretary to deliver a formal 'pleading.'
The reference to the 'militia,' Reisch said, simply means the people of Colorado.
'It says, 'Judge, you're wrong, and if you look at the law, you're wrong,' ' Reisch said. 'And if you don't do it, you answer to the people of the state of Colorado. The militia are the people of the state of Colorado.'
The defense attorney also criticized the judge, saying that while his client's behavior during the municipal proceedings was cordial, Rose's conduct was rude and hostile.
Under questioning from Deputy District Attorney Sean May, Rose testified he had become familiar with some of Stanley's philosophies and was aware that he had a militia that he could call for assistance.
Rose said the alleged threat forced him to change his lifestyle. In addition to the SWAT team guarding his home and family, the judge said he had to communicate by walkie-talkie and take different routes home in case he was followed.
Stanley, who has been battling the Internal Revenue Service over income taxes and laws he believes threaten the right to bear arms, was arrested in September 2002 by Thornton police for carrying a firearm in the city.
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CincySpaceGeek
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Some how I missed the connection of the post to Gun Woman. Could you explain it to me?
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mishabdiyx
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It's the same type of connection as when gungrabbers say the NRA caused someone to shoot someone else with a gun: nonexistent.
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brer
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So how was the swat team 'forced' to protect the judge's home? Did they use balls and chains? Force field's? Threat of termination?
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heathbar
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Some points:
1. Arrest implies being put in some kind of custody at the very least. 2. The crime he was accused of was named; treason. In the absence of a militia specific definition of the crime and it's potentially associated punishments, it is quite natural and logical to conclude that the commonly known statutes are used as a basis, or very well might be. 3. Death threats are something to take seriously, especially when involving potential players like that. Better to be more cautious than necessary than the opposite.
While the judge may have overreacted in his composure, it isn't out of line to be careful in such a situation.
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 21:36:54 -0600, 'Chas'
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Trakar
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It's also readily apparent that the circumstances were construed in the most uncharitable light, and, I believe, to affect Stanley's candidacy for office- by using the legal system as a political tool. Stanley is a constitutionalist- his charge of 'treason' was because of the prior judge's refusal to hear a Constitutional argument, saying that Denver is a 'home rule' entity and the Constitution doesn't apply. He had been arrested at a political rally standing up for 2nd Amend rights (Denver), and again, doing the same shtick out in Thornton (I think)- Adams County in any case. The Metro area is well-known for pimp-slapping 'Patriots'- regardless of the grounds for their suits/responses. It is an expression of judicial bias, and the basis for a lot of action in the courts, calling their objectivity into serious question. It is so notorious, that an accusation of 'Patriotism' is tantamount to being called a 'Commie', and is used to gain advantage in actions. And, unfortunately, Stanley is still an arrogant ass, given to melodrama and impulsive blather- it's just the principle of the thing. His position is about political rhetoric, not 'action'. Even the prosecution could make no showing that any implied/perceived threat was credible in the least. The victim/judge even said that there was no precursor, no subsequent events, nothing.
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klaretonor
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I have seen lots of movies, all of them rather based on entertainment value only. Not one will I ever base my rights on, you retard.
What is indeed YOUR point regarding this TPG Newsgroup?
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ShavedBritneyyy
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So what do you base your rights on?
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bhewton
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Man; don't be calling people that- the MultiJurisdictional Domestic Terrorism Task Force, administered by the JTTF out of the FBI, doesn't have *near* enough to do- they'll come break down his door, put him in solitary confinement, hold him for a year without arraignment, trump up charges, destroy his life, break up his family, close his business and kill his dog. Ok; I was exaggerating about the dog.
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SwaTT
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Cute! You forgot shoot his wife and kid, label him a child molester, surround his house with swat teams that are actually still active military. Forget the door, have a tank rip down the wall fire teargas through the holes. Shoot at each other and say he fired first then light the place on fire and say he was part of a suicide cult and claimed to be the messiah.....
You really think calling him a patriot would do all that?
Then the 4-19 must have really scared you!
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Yeah; the case is called 'Gartin v. People/Colorado'. It was simply sufficient to call him a Patriot for them to have sent the SWATzi's to get him four times now- never a cognizable charge, never arraigned, kept in solitary- hell of a story.
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